What are your thoughts on the brief discussion on religion and spirituality in the cave?

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Re: What are your thoughts on the brief discussion on religion and spirituality in the cave?

Post by Amanda Deck » 21 May 2019, 23:49

Many people feel as though their particular branch of religion is the only one or the "right one". At its best, this viewpoint can be seen as obnoxious or rude...
There is another way this can be taken. At its best, people who believe that are desperate for others to understand and be safe and on the right path. I have come across that before, but it's definitely less common. And that's certainly not the motivation for what was said in the cave.

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Post by Rachel Lea » 24 May 2019, 16:12

I thought the author's portrayal of Randall's character as a closed-minded, Bible-clutching religious person was really sad, and frankly, it's my least favorite aspect of Adrift. I hope that readers of the book realize that not all people who are Christian think and act like that. As a religious person myself, I found Randall's attitude towards William's beliefs to be irritating and insensitive.
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Post by Zeix » 25 May 2019, 00:17

Everyone has a right to believe what they want, whether in religion or not. The truth stands out be that its a free world and judging others doesn't make you a better person

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Post by Catherine Amarachi » 25 May 2019, 01:07

I think it reflects the real world where there's a lot of conflict of beliefs. Some thinks that their religion is superior to others and this leads to hate and impede on relationships.

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Post by eastandalchemy » 28 May 2019, 08:18

I agree with what many have stated before me, that discussing religion is one of the most difficult things for (most) people to discuss without bias. So many people have been taught to base their life path on what their religion advises, so it's hard to have someone question what they've "known" and practiced their entire life.

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Post by VernaVi » 29 May 2019, 06:34

I thought the religious discussion was a good addition to the book. In a situation like that, it is normal to think about God. Is He real? Will he hear your prayers? Some won't believe or maybe they believe in something else, but the debate is important to humankind.

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Post by NIRUPAMA JHA » 31 May 2019, 18:23

William's story was true but still the second mate denied it. It was a bit rude since different people has different religious views and their faith lies in the form of God they worship but no one can judge whether one is right or the other is wrong. :)

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Post by Scarlet Nicoll » 06 Jun 2019, 06:24

It will never cease to amaze me how someone can be religious and rely on that religion with nothing but faith, but somehow find it in themselves to question someones else's spirituality as if their faith is less than. It is not uncommon at all for people in peril to turn to faith for comfort. William's story was real to him (and in the official story itself) and I found it rude of the second mate to dismiss it like that. It makes him out to be an unlikable character (but still great story).
doesn't this reflect the reality in people?

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Post by skindrukas » 16 Jun 2019, 10:41

As a nonbeliever, I find it often annoying if there is too much of religious discussions in the book I'm reading. Although religious views might make a certain character more relatable and developed, I often think that this doesn't add much to the story and sometimes it even feels unnecessary.
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Post by SomaKenya » 19 Jun 2019, 05:53

Yes, tolerance is all that is required of one another in this life

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Post by Wriley » 21 Jun 2019, 12:16

To question someone else's faith just makes the questioner look like they are trying to make themselves feel superior which only makes themselves look weak. In life and death situations, in real life, everyone turns to some belief system. It's how humans cope. The book did depict that somewhat.
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Post by Vickie Noel » 30 Jun 2019, 14:04

I believe it's important to respect everyone's religious opinion, and even if there's technically nothing wrong in attempting to convert one to your own faith, perhaps due to your strong conviction that doing so is in that person's best interests, the manner at which such conversion is attempted should not toe the line of demeaning, disrespectful speech and attitudes.
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Post by Jimi Adewole » 03 Jul 2019, 14:11

Every religion claims a monopoly of truth. And it is often difficult to be a true adherent without accepting that monopoly. I'm not sure it is necessary to change that. But it is certainly necessary to recognize and tolerate that others are just as convinced of their faiths as you are.
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Post by ReviewerDiksha » 05 Jul 2019, 08:21

I wholeheartedly agree with this. This scene is just another example of the fact that there are people who are ready to believe everything (even if it gets ridiculous sometimes) that their religion asks them to believe. But they are not ready to accept that someone else could have their own set of rules that they abide by. I think that the author has given a face to this problem through this situation and wants us to ask ourselves if we are such hypocrites as well.

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Post by Clorinda Donovan » 06 Jul 2019, 16:34

We are free to disagree about religion, but not undermining or belittling another's religion. So I must agree with Lady-Of-Literature that it was rude! We should be respectful of any religious belief, because if one is mocking or derogatory about someone else's religion it could backfire.
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