Is self -publishing smart?

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Re: Is self -publishing smart?

Post by Mana_Hale » 27 Mar 2018, 13:34

Personally, I'm a writer who after finally earning a Masters in Creative Writing learned that I not only enjoy writing, but all aspects of the production of a story - for me, self-publishing is both a hobby and part of my job. I love having the creative control to do as I please with my characters and story that I've put so much work into creating, hosting art contests, lending them to game makers, doing crossovers... writing the book has become a "core" of sorts, but for me the entire creative spectrum is what I'm interested in, which makes self-publishing the best move I feel I could make, especially given I write for a niche audience that not many agents know how to deal with.

In the meantime, I even publish drafts of the story chapters at a rate of 1 a month via Patreon and have garnered a small following after only a year of publicly putting out my work - it may only be a small amount compared to working with an agent and publisher "proper," but I couldn't be happier having such control over my own work!

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Post by McFatter » 29 Mar 2018, 08:00

ladywithglasses wrote:
13 Jan 2017, 17:38
Would you say it is better to self publish or to go through an agency? Does anyone have any experience publishing a book these ways? I would love to read your opinion. Thank you and have a wonderful day!
Querying for an agent is tough, tough business. So, if you are going to go that route, you should prepare yourself mentally and emotionally. Agents are very specific about what they are looking for and each of them only takes on a few projects a year. Writing a good query letter is a whole other mystic art that has to be learned. And it's a long waiting game. Many agents don't respond, and the majority of the ones that do understandably cut and paste a stock response--and you have to prepare for that. If you win the lotto and are lucky, an agent will reply asking to see your whole manuscript. If you win the lotto a second time, they will want to represent you.

Self-publishing offers up opportunities to writers that never existed before. And yes, while we do have more creative control by going it alone, it is very wise to get help from folks that can assist you with telling the best version of your story possible--like an editor.

I have self-published my first novel and it was a challenging journey with a lot of lessons learned along the way. And while I am still learning, I have found this process to be very rewarding.

Much luck to you, whichever way you choose.

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Post by See_B00kReaDs » 30 Mar 2018, 21:33

cluznar wrote:
21 Jan 2017, 21:54
Yes, self publishing is a good way for the new writer to start out. Instead of spending a year trying to get a publisher to pick you up, only to find out none will. With self publishing you can pretty much do as you would with a publisher. But you pay for it. I self published my first book with Outskirts Press and they are great to work with. They have editing available, also marketing. There are also many self publishers available. Each author must look them over and decide which fits their need. But at least with a self publisher you can get your book out there in front of people.
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Post by love_b00ks » 07 May 2018, 19:37

I am also an aspiring author, this thread is so useful. :)

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Post by love_b00ks » 25 May 2018, 21:06

It is difficult to get your book published by a professional publisher, it goes through a lot of process that's why I think it is wise to do self-publishing, at least at the onset.

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Post by rave_2 » 11 Jun 2018, 12:58

Self-publishing is great if you know what you're doing, and do it right. Otherwise, you may as well wait so many years just to get a literary agent to notice you.
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Post by andreandhispen » 15 Jun 2018, 00:32

It is a lot easier to self publish and puts you in control of your book. A traditional publisher will take some of the control away. If you have the budget to market the book it would be the way to go. The mistake I made is I did not market the way I wanted to, which cost me a lot of time and I had to sell books word of mouth. Whereas with a traditional publisher would eliminate that it is still a better option, because you have the creative freedom and you keep more money which is the way it should be.

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Post by Louanne Piccolo » 31 Dec 2018, 04:03

Agencies cost money. So, if you have a limited budget, try self- publishing first. There's a lot of information on the Internet and Amazon, if you use it, makes it fairly simple.
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Post by hana2012 » 02 Jan 2019, 07:32

I began writing my first novel and was thinking whether I should self-publish or not. I'm glad I visited this post and I will consider the suggestions and see :)

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Post by Dennis189 » 14 Jan 2019, 11:42

Self publishing is great when you want to have control over your writeup. The only challenge with self publishing is marketing and promoting the book. It becomes your sole responsibility

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Post by Randysgal » 21 Jan 2019, 22:33

Thank you for this information. I am hedging on my final chapters and have been researching the best route and company to go to. I have found such a variety of services and prices that I must suggest that you look at more than a few self-publishing companies before you delve into this. Another thing I have found of interest to me is the companies that are sort of middle-of-the-road publishers like Ingram Spark. These companies offer a low-cost option where you can control the process but they have a selection process and are pickier than the regular self-publishing companies. In this way, they can offer bigger savings to the author while maintaining their professional image. There are many of these companies out there and I am still going through them, researching reviews and costs involved as well as what each offers. These companies have editors, marketers, cover artists, etc. These are options only and are not required. You will have to pay for whatever you choose, but that comes with having control of the process.

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Post by Cowgirl87 » 27 Jan 2019, 02:09

For me just for laughs I put one of my books I wrote and sent to publisher. Not even a week later did they want more of my book. They wanted almost 2,000 dollars down to start I did not have those kind of funds. Like I said I was not expecting him to reply back

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Post by Zora C Penter » 31 Jan 2019, 15:46

If you are looking for the ultimate creative experience (without having chunks cut from your book and little to no input on the cover), you should probably self publish. However, it takes a tremendous amount of time to market your book which means less writing time for the next one!

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Post by lisalynn » 23 Mar 2019, 21:10

Times have changed. It's almost impossible to find an agent or publisher these days unless you're already famous for something else. Self-publishing opens the door to everyone. But it's a lot of work to put out a top-notch product, so be sure you're ready to put in the time and money.

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Post by Bhaskins » 08 Jul 2019, 10:46

I love your suggestion of meeting with other local writers. That can help network, provide advice, and get your work out there. Such a good point.
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20 Feb 2017, 14:10
It can be very smart. Think about the countless hours spent preparing query letters then tailoring them to fit a particular agent. Of course that implies spending adequate time to learn what a specific agent is truly seeking.

Take it from me (if you like) when I say what an agent might post on a agent-list-type of a website and what she or he really wants generally do not match up. I will take that one further and state even when you believe you know what he/she is seeking in a book, you better look at the books they have published in the last couple of years. Typically they do not match up with what you would have expected.

So, sure, send out a few dozen well-drafted queries while simultaneously seeking the best self-publisher for you. And remember, you will need to have an editor if you self-publish as they are worth their weight in dimes.

Further, if you self-publish, have a game plan and stick to it every single day of the week. Get a basic website, and a blog too. Expand your friends on social media. And create a journal for yourself in which you enter what you do every day...this creates a reference for where you have been, where you need to follow up and avoids needless duplication.

Remember J.K. Rowling was rejected more than 700 times. Today, instead of spending all those hours in vain, she would likely choose to self-publish. But if you do so, have a realistic budget for your marketing campaign and give it an honest chance to succeed.

Finally, get involved in local author clubs. Check MeetUp for one near you.
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