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Craving victory means you're craving to be better than others or feel better about yourself. So yeah, I'd say that is selfish. I think everyone has the right to feel jealous, it's what you do with that jealousy that matters. They are all sixteen so I find it hard to hold them up to the same moral compass I would an adult. I think I would forgive them if I was Tris. I just wouldn't do anything to change it.

I think it's bravery, she grew up in a faction that is timid and I think she was just trying to prove that she can be brave.

No, it’s not selfish to crave victory, the punishment for failure in Dauntless is to be made factionless which is terrifying. I would do everything in my power to avoid it.
Their rule that a percentage must fail was silly anyway, if the intake that year was particularly good, some great people would be pointlessly thrown away.

Success is always appealing, victory endorses success. Initiation was a challenge, it was a test of strength, will and patience. I see no selfishness in craving victory during the initiation. For a person in Abnegation, it might be considered selfish, but for a Dauntless it is necessary to crave victory. It actually determined how much she actually fit the title of 'Dauntless'.

Also, it is natural to be jealous of higher competitors in name of competition. But while turning the jealousy to hatred is when you need to draw the limit. If I was in her place, I definitely would have forgiven my fellow competitors, taking it in the right spirit.

In every competition, jealousy is a normal emotion, even if the ones you are competing against are your friends. It is not selfish to crave victory.

I don't really think it's either selfish or brave, necessarily. Wanting to be victorious just seems to be very human. And of course her friends will be jealous, but given the circumstances and the consequences of not doing well, I'd say they were forgivable.

I do not believe it was whole-heartedly selfish of Tris to crave victory. The stakes were high and she had to fight to survive. Also, I do not think it was right for her friends to react so negatively, but I would still have to forgive them as Tris did. After initiation was done, it was only fair that the tension faded.

It is a human tendency to want to be the best at something. Some of the best inventors were mentored by it. But so is jealousy and envy so it is natural for them to feel that way since it is sometimes inescapable.

Not selfish to crave victory at all in my opinion, it's just being competitive. Maybe a bit proud, but not selfish.

Can't it be both? Is it not the whole definition of selfish to want something for yourself, and brave to go about stating and acting out those desires? I understand Tris' friend's jealousy - they also want it for themselves and no matter who it is that's ranked above them, friend or otherwise, you can't help those feelings from keeping in? I would forgive them for it - if Tris is allowed to be selfish, they are allowed to be jealous.

It was brave of her to crave victory. It is common human nature to crave victory and goodness (NOBODY wants to lose) and it is also human nature for her friends to be jealous of her. If I were Tris, I would forgive them, knowing this fact.

Victory is selfish. When the other option is subjugation, however, it becomes the only option. Bravery is really in the fight to achieve victory, and not so much the desire.

Well, when we look at her life before it wasn't really interesting was it ? So I would think that it was more just something "natural." With her competitive side and all , her personality and bravery got her in trouble a couple of times. I don't think it was necessarily selfish for her to crave bravery but I don't think it was too brave either.

She definitely isn't selfish to crave victory. You become factionless if you don't get to the ranks.

I think Tris is brave with how she managed to be first in rank. I believe friends who gets jealous shouldn’t be called as your friends. Tris managed to get on her rank.