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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> djr6090 wrote:
> > Post by espo » 10 Aug 2020, 15:50
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> > I also come from an academic background and I would have also liked some
> > citations and sources. The book does have a further reading section at the
> > end, but there were passages where I definitely thought “hmmm, I wish I
> > could read a paper/book to learn more about that.” I trust the authors’
> > credentials, but it’s just for the sake of readers, so they’re able to fact
> > check and do further reading on that specific topic if they want to.
> >
> > I'm the same. With a little more work, the authors could have turned some
> > of their 'studies show' comments into links to their further reading
> > section. While the section at the end is helpful for in depth study, a
> > quick jump to a source at the point at which you are reading something
> > unfamiliar would have been helpful.
>
> Your sentiments are all valid. Especially for those wanting to do deeper studies, a
> citation would come in handy. Nevertheless, I'd say not having included the citations
> is inconsequential.

Yes, but are they inconsequential? Writing a nonfiction book about remedies really needs to have some citations as this book is basically a work of research and in order to properly serve as a guidebook in times of need, citations do play an important hand.
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I found the bibliography at the end pretty comprehensive, didn't you?
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I agree that the use of citation would be helpful to research on certain informations for those interested.
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IchbineinBerliner wrote:
> I found the bibliography at the end pretty comprehensive, didn't you?

Yes, it was detailed. Which added more cream to the overall nicety of this book.
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Having citations in references is always a must when doing books like these that point to other studies, even indirectly. I wonder if maybe everything just wasn't included in this version yet, maybe.
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IchbineinBerliner wrote:
> I found the bibliography at the end pretty comprehensive, didn't you?

Yes, the bibliography really covers a lot of books and papers which include a lot of the information about the references for further reading. However, it would have been better to put these as footnotes in certain related pages.
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Karina Nowak wrote:
> Having citations in references is always a must when doing books like these
> that point to other studies, even indirectly. I wonder if maybe everything
> just wasn't included in this version yet, maybe.

Yes, the use of citations is something I look forward to if there is a revised version of this book in the future. Maybe put the references in the bibliography and put it as footnotes?
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Karina Nowak wrote:
> Having citations in references is always a must when doing books like these
> that point to other studies, even indirectly. I wonder if maybe everything
> just wasn't included in this version yet, maybe.
I concur citations enable better verification of a book. Kinrys didn't offer any citations, but most of the remedies given are skills that have been with us for a while. I'm not saying it's not crucial, but not everything required referencing.
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Joseph_ngaruiya wrote:
> Karina Nowak wrote:
> > Having citations in references is always a must when doing books like these
> > that point to other studies, even indirectly. I wonder if maybe everything
> > just wasn't included in this version yet, maybe.
> I concur citations enable better verification of a book. Kinrys didn't offer any
> citations, but most of the remedies given are skills that have been with us for a
> while. I'm not saying it's not crucial, but not everything required referencing.

Yes, true natural remedies like meditation may not require references, but some like diet monitoring would be better if we had one. Other practices like CBT or biofeedback definitely needed one.
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Referring and quoting other people's work shows that the author is well versed with the topic they have chosen. It also indicates that the author did their resesarch. However, when one's work refers to other authors as much as in this book, ideally, those other books must be cited for eays referral.
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I agree with your post. Though the book does have a thorough “Suggested Further Reading” section, it would have been helpful to have them directly linked throughout the book in the sections that are about those specific topics. As you said, it would have also been beneficial to have the studies mentioned in the footnotes. That way readers could have the chance to directly see the findings and data beyond what the book already summarized of it.
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Dominik_G wrote: 05 Aug 2020, 07:10 I think you're right. When I read a book which refers to information from other sources, I like to have the chance to check those for myself. In this case, I would've preferred this not because I think the authors were in any way dishonest, but because certain topics or methods piqued my interest enough so that I wanted to further educate myself. A "References" section at the end of the book would have been nice and useful.
I agree with you. A References section would've added some scientific backing and legitimacy to the author's words.
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It's possible the author thought readers would be put off at the site of all those citations, and that is why they limited themselves to a bibliography.
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Yes, a citation will help make this book more convincing. But since the authors are MD, I am not that much worried about citation. I would trust the authors' experience. Of course, we need to be critical when choosing the method the authors suggested. Each people is different, and I would be cautious about consulting your own doctor to have a tailed plan.
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Yes. I agree. Having sources for the information in the book would be helpful, in order to review where the author got the information from.
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