Largest Obstacle to the expedition

Use this forum to discuss the July 2020 Book of the month, "Zona: The Forbidden Land" by Fred G. Baker.
Post Reply
User avatar
Priyanka2304
Posts: 761
Joined: 18 Mar 2019, 05:38
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 31
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-priyanka2304.html
Latest Review: Serendipity Mystery: Diary of a Snoopy Cat by R.F. Kristi

Re: Largest Obstacle to the expedition

Post by Priyanka2304 »

I strongly agree that alcohol was intervening a lot with the characters. It made the characters vulnerable to all the troubles.
Essywa
Posts: 149
Joined: 03 Jul 2020, 04:16
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 15
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-essywa.html
Latest Review: ...on your way home...Do This by George Six

Post by Essywa »

Definitely excessive alcohol consumption was the obstacle that led to the rise of other problems during the expedition.
Ify_Reviewer
Posts: 260
Joined: 29 Jun 2020, 09:23
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 38
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-ify-reviewer.html
Latest Review: Return to Eternity by Jenni Barnett

Post by Ify_Reviewer »

I agree that alcohol was a major obstacle but then it wouldn't have been so much of an obstacle if they had trust, unity, and cooperation among them.
User avatar
tjportugal
Posts: 446
Joined: 17 Mar 2020, 15:26
Favorite Book: Lord of the Rings
Currently Reading: The Hobbit
Bookshelf Size: 53
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-tjportugal.html
Latest Review: Mister Sleepy by Jane Alice

Post by tjportugal »

The_Vivian wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:17 Alcohol may have been one of their obstacles, but in my opinion, I think the largest of all was the lack of trust amongst them. If they had trusted each other, the alcohol would have been a minor obstacle.
I completely agree with you. Lack of trust was a lot more harmful than alcohol abuse because it detroys the fabric of the community of people that make the expedition.
To read or not to read? That's not even a question!
User avatar
Samantha Gayle
Posts: 152
Joined: 28 Apr 2020, 10:15
Favorite Book: The Great Divorce
Currently Reading: We are Voulhire: A New Arrival under Great Skies
Bookshelf Size: 264
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-samantha-gayle.html
Latest Review: The Biblical Clock by Daniel Friedmann and Dania Sheldon
Reading Device: B0BJLXMVMV

Post by Samantha Gayle »

I think I agree with you that the alcohol consumption definitely lent itself to some pitfalls. However, I think it’s a great show of creating humanity in the characters, as alcohol can get in the way of the best of people and intentions .
shravsi
Posts: 565
Joined: 01 Apr 2016, 01:01
Favorite Book:
Currently Reading: Crime and Punishment
Bookshelf Size: 115
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-shravsi.html
Latest Review: Sam the Chosen by Wally Jones

Post by shravsi »

Many point towards alcohol for all problems, though it's is true in some way,it cannont be the only reason. Alcohol just amplifies the hidden feelings and cracks present in humans.
Unique Ego
Posts: 452
Joined: 23 Jun 2020, 03:22
Favorite Book: The Tales of Little Lady M
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 73
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-unique-ego.html
Latest Review: A Dream For Peace by Dr. Ghoulem Berrah

Post by Unique Ego »

Alcohol caused a lot of issues that could have been avoided but I feel the greater obstacle was lack of proper communication and trust.
User avatar
Porcupineapple15
Posts: 13
Joined: 18 Jun 2020, 23:02
Currently Reading: Superhighway
Bookshelf Size: 14
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-porcupineapple15.html
Latest Review: We are Voulhire: A New Arrival under Great Skies by Matthew Tysz

Post by Porcupineapple15 »

From the sounds of it, (I have not completed the book yet) it seems as if alcohol might have led to most of the poor judgement or lack thereof, but sadly it seems that Grant struggled the most. I honestly felt quite bad for him while reading the first few chapters and the synopsis of the story. Alcohol mixed with adventure can either make for a really fun time or a dreadfully awful one!
IchbineinBerliner wrote: 03 Jul 2020, 10:47
Topsey wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 16:41 I don’t think it was purely the alcohol that was the problem but rather human error. Through human error or human weaknesses, they created their own obstacles such as miscommunication, dishonestly, excessive alcohol consumption etc.
Don't you think the alcohol made the human errors worse? For example, human error was a tremendous problem for Grant long before the expedition began, but I think alcohol compounded the problem. Perhaps he would have forgotten important meetings and left papers lying around carelessly even if he were completely sober, but alcohol always makes us less efficient, at best.
Beatus
Posts: 1018
Joined: 21 Jun 2017, 10:41
Currently Reading: Homicide
Bookshelf Size: 74
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-beatus.html
Latest Review: Zona: The Forbidden Land by Fred G. Baker

Post by Beatus »

In another perspective, the alcohol factor made sense of the troubles they faced and thus the story's catalyst.The comments here show just that.
Ediomis_Enwongo01
Posts: 435
Joined: 20 Apr 2020, 05:48
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 23
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-ediomis-enwongo01.html
Latest Review: How To Be Successful by M. Curtis McCoy

Post by Ediomis_Enwongo01 »

Tangible things like alcohol may not really pose a problem as emotions would do. To me, mistrust was the greatest obstacle.
Chiagbanwe
Posts: 77
Joined: 13 Apr 2020, 04:29
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 35
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-chiagbanwe.html
Latest Review: The Fox by M. N. J. Butler

Post by Chiagbanwe »

They had problems such as lack of communication, lack of trust etc. Now, with alcohol, each person just creates a world of his own for himself thereby worsening their communication problems. So, alcohol was like a major catalyst for almost every problem they had.
Teele
Posts: 363
Joined: 01 Jul 2020, 06:10
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 46
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-teele.html
Latest Review: More Hype Than Glory by Tom Hyde

Post by Teele »

Yes, alcohol was the major culprit. Turning things upside down as usual. It led to errors that could have been avoided.
Sjtoy
Posts: 104
Joined: 05 Jul 2020, 13:01
Currently Reading:
Bookshelf Size: 26
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-sjtoy.html
Latest Review: Marriage Maximized by William Hutcheson

Post by Sjtoy »

Although I agree thst alcohol, at times, did cause more harm than good for the explorers, I felt the largest obstacle was the mystery of Zona itself. Although Max knew what to expect, I feel the majority of the team did not realize what they were getting themselves into. Because of the security, electric fence, and guns, they seemed to feel too secure and were not truly prepared for the dangers in Zona.
User avatar
Kreads1
Posts: 192
Joined: 14 Jul 2020, 15:39
Favorite Author: Kristin Hannah
Currently Reading: The Once and Future Witches
Bookshelf Size: 131
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-kreads1.html
Latest Review: We are Voulhire: A New Arrival under Great Skies by Matthew Tysz
Reading Device: 1400697484
fav_author_id: 5604

Post by Kreads1 »

I personally feel that the greatest obstacle was the characters themselves. Each decision that was made, including the over indulgence of alcohol, helped or hindered the expedition. The abundance of life in Zona would not be possible if Zona itself was the greatest obstacle. It would be unlikely that the area would thrive otherwise. This is a really interesting discussion and I enjoyed reading through the responses.
User avatar
apayne310
Posts: 25
Joined: 28 Jan 2020, 18:02
Favorite Book: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Currently Reading: The 57 Bus
Bookshelf Size: 415
Reviewer Page: onlinebookclub.org/reviews/by-apayne310.html
Latest Review: Island Games by Caleb J. Boyer

Post by apayne310 »

I think alcohol mixed and the lack of trust are both concurrently the biggest issues. I have a very low tolerance for alcohol abuse and so I found that to be very frustrating.
Post Reply

Return to “Discuss "Zona: The Forbidden Land" by Fred G. Baker”