Nature vs Nuture

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I am leaning more to nurture. Education awakened the conscience of Tau, and this allowed for the expression of human abilities embedded within him.
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This is a very interesting perspective. I believe it was nurture because to know what you want, you need to compare and realize what you're deprived of. You can't, in my opinion, arouse this emotion unless you can see that you can acquire what you want.
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I think he would discovered want. Its something that has been debated with in non-humans for some time. Can anaiamls feel? And if they feel, do they want? Can viruses want? I think in order to want isn't so much understand what want is but be aware enough of your life and environment to make any decision. If they can, then they can want.
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Tau reminds me of children living in abusive families. Often they do not even realize there is anything wrong with their life. It is just normal for them. They have to see a different way to want something else. Kata showed Tau that life could be different and taught him to think for himself.
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I think its nurture since Tau was not created based on nature. So the know-how has to be learned by someone that that is created by nature.
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I think Kalin helped Tau figure out a lot of things he wouldn't have been able to on his own. I think it's a more of a social phenomenon.
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I think want is more of a social phenomenon that occurs when people show you what you don't have. For instance, if there was no one to ever show you some Lamborghini, chances are, you would never want it.
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SophiaNd wrote: 13 Apr 2020, 10:13 I believe Tau was influenced more by nurture. Being made in a Lab, Tau is likened to a new born baby who does everything by emulation and by what he or she is being told to believe. Whatever Tau did or believed was more as a result of nurture from Kalin and yes, he would have discovered what want is but that would be much later when he must have come in contact with another being to tell him otherwise.
I agree with you; it is the thing with every young being; he/she/it learns from others, whether it is someone he/she/it knows or not.
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B Creech wrote: 12 Apr 2020, 08:05
funninessishappiness wrote: 11 Apr 2020, 22:52 As we all know, Tau was created in a lab. Therefore, before Kalin, everything he knew was from the lab. One of the first things that Kalin asked Tau was "What about what you want to know." This causes Tau to ponder on the meaning of want. Before Kalin ever entered the picture do you think Tau would have eventually figured out what want is? Do you think want is a human emotion that would show itself regardless of the environment? Or do you think want is more of a social phenomenon that only occurs when others show you what you don't have? To put it simply, do you think it was nature or nurture that lead to the way Tau is now?
Nature vs Nurture has always fascinated me. I like to ponder which is the most dominant in a person and I usually always lean more toward nurture. I am a believer that we are primarily a product of our environment. That being said, I believe we are all born with wants and needs, however, we are mostly taught our needs outweigh our wants. As for Tau, I think he would have continued obeying what he'd been taught instead of wondering about what he wanted because his wants were not acknowledged by the scientists. I think it was nurture that made him the way he is now due to Kalin pursuing the subject with him. :eusa-think:
I agree that the idea of nature vs nurture is pretty interesting. I have been under the impression from person experience that how we were born and how we were raised both affects how we "turn out" in the end. That's why this book's premise is so intriguing!
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reneelu1998 wrote: 21 May 2020, 14:51
B Creech wrote: 12 Apr 2020, 08:05
funninessishappiness wrote: 11 Apr 2020, 22:52 As we all know, Tau was created in a lab. Therefore, before Kalin, everything he knew was from the lab. One of the first things that Kalin asked Tau was "What about what you want to know." This causes Tau to ponder on the meaning of want. Before Kalin ever entered the picture do you think Tau would have eventually figured out what want is? Do you think want is a human emotion that would show itself regardless of the environment? Or do you think want is more of a social phenomenon that only occurs when others show you what you don't have? To put it simply, do you think it was nature or nurture that lead to the way Tau is now?
Nature vs Nurture has always fascinated me. I like to ponder which is the most dominant in a person and I usually always lean more toward nurture. I am a believer that we are primarily a product of our environment. That being said, I believe we are all born with wants and needs, however, we are mostly taught our needs outweigh our wants. As for Tau, I think he would have continued obeying what he'd been taught instead of wondering about what he wanted because his wants were not acknowledged by the scientists. I think it was nurture that made him the way he is now due to Kalin pursuing the subject with him. :eusa-think:
I agree that the idea of nature vs nurture is pretty interesting. I have been under the impression from person experience that how we were born and how we were raised both affects how we "turn out" in the end. That's why this book's premise is so intriguing!
In the long run I believe both nature and nurture play a roll in how we turn out. I think it depends on the individual personality of a person as to which one plays the biggest roll. Two people can react to an identical situation in totally different ways.
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raindropreader wrote: 14 Apr 2020, 16:45 From what I know of social psychology, we humans can be made to want and to be believe things that we never would had it not been for the social conditioning. I never underestimate the power of social conditioning. Therefor I have to believe that he wouldn’t have searched or wanted for more- that he would’ve believed what the scientists told him.
I agree. I've seen some studies too, but also every day, more than ever, scientists point to how determining genetics (or nature, in this case) can be. So, I'm truly confused! :?
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I don't think wanting is necessarily in our nature. Need is, sure. But if a human in a perfect environment has all its needs met, why would it want for anything else?
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"You don't miss what you have never had." I heard this quote many years ago and it has stuck with me ever since. That said, I doubt Tau would have known better than what his creators wanted him to know without Kalin in the picture.
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Northernbird84 wrote: 27 Apr 2020, 07:07 I think want comes from the nature aspect. There is always something inside us longing for something. Love, intimacy, survival, procreation. I think it's innate. Nature vs nurture is a really fascinating subject. Great question to ask!
I agree, I think that to want is a part of human nature. Now, what you can want changes based on the situation. Some wants can be basic like a want for a warmer blanket in the cold or so much more complex based on your own situation, but even people in the worst situations can still want.
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My opinion is that our genes affect who we are more than our circumstances. Nature trumps nurture. It's a sad reality, but there are some things born into us that we simply cannot change. Interests are bred from genetically inherited talents. Inclinations towards certain emotions are genetic. In short: want is a human emotion, not a social phenomenon. Tau would have ended up this way, no matter what, because it was written in his DNA.
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