Pregnancy (Spoilers)

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I felt sorry for Cynthia following the loss of her pregnancy. That was traumatizing for a naive lady like her. Fortunately, she was able to begin a new cycle at the women's centre
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Shelly Caetano wrote: 07 Jun 2019, 08:32 I thought this was a very peculiar subplot that took away from the story. What was even stranger to me was how Mike was the expert on the subject. I found it peculiar that a woman, who knew she was pregnant, experienced very painful abdominal cramps and vaginal bleeding and did not freak out but instead went to work. Overall, I think the author tried to use this subplot as a character development or growth tool. In my opinion, it did not quite hit the mark.
The part about Mike being the "expert" was disconcerting and awkward. Spotting during pregnancy can happen with no threat to the pregnancy, so since the heavier bleeding didn't start until she was at work, that part didn't bother me as bad.
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I haven't been able to read the book, but a subplot of pregnancy and miscarriage in a book about cyber terrorism sounds like a pretty reckless endeavour. The author would have to twist and squeeze quite a bit to have it make sense, and it doesn't sound like he's done a very good job. Sounds like a botched up nose job, frankly!
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Gracedscribe wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 23:33 I haven't been able to read the book, but a subplot of pregnancy and miscarriage in a book about cyber terrorism sounds like a pretty reckless endeavour. The author would have to twist and squeeze quite a bit to have it make sense, and it doesn't sound like he's done a very good job. Sounds like a botched up nose job, frankly!
Mixing pregnancy and miscarriage with cyber terrorism was not a bad part of the whole plot. Sadly. For me, the book had so many other issues that mentioned subjects are not even relevant and I am sure the author didn't intend it to be like that. The way these characters acted and the choices they made are much bigger the subject I'm sure the author wanted us to talk about. Either way, I think you didn't miss out on not reading this book.
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diana lowery wrote: 23 Jun 2019, 07:33 I thought the whole situation was odd. The way she got pregnant so easily with a man she didn't know. The way Sky showed up the next day with a way to prevent the pregnancy. Sky comes across as so prepared and organized, how did he not have condoms in his apartment? Cynthia "forgetting" to pee on the stick. Mike and his knowledge of miscarriages. I even thought the recovery place was creepy.
All excellent points. And also major reasons why I really disliked the book.
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cpru68 wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 01:58 The whole situation was odd. I actually got a little upset when it was pretty clear to me with enough clues from the author that she was pregnant and she drank alcohol! That irritated me. While Cynthia kept “forgetting” she could be pregnant, I didn’t due to the constant references to it in the book. I didn’t like it at all.
I agree! I felt the same way. It was all very odd and annoying, in my opinion.
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I agree it was odd, and would the bleeding have actually been that bad when she was clearly only a couple weeks along? And also, morning sickness doesn’t usually show up until around 6-8 weeks of gestation so I thought that was a little off as well. (I’m sure it’s different for every woman, but that’s the norm anyway.) And why did Sky make such a big deal out of her getting rid of the baby? I thought that was a little weird if he wanted to get married to her anyway...
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I think Cynthia's storyline would have been more interesting had the book been longer, allowing the author to go into greater detail. It seemed too predictable that Cynthia would become pregnant after Sky gave her the abortion instructions. It seemed so rushed as well.

I thought the abortion part of the story was well written and did add depth to Cynthia's character as many people have already said.
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cpru68 wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 01:58 The whole situation was odd. I actually got a little upset when it was pretty clear to me with enough clues from the author that she was pregnant and she drank alcohol! That irritated me. While Cynthia kept “forgetting” she could be pregnant, I didn’t due to the constant references to it in the book. I didn’t like it at all.
If you want to be even more irritated, look for articles about recent research that has been done (just published this year!) that says drinking alcohol in small amounts is fine during pregnancy.
Some women on the trying to conceive boards I follow are taking it as permission to continue their habits well into pregnancy. (Not to mention the whole "drink til it's pink" community...)
As someone who has had to turn down drinks on the *slight* possibility that I might be pregnant, I find it really hard to believe that someone would willingly drink while fully knowing the affect it could have on the baby.
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katiesquilts wrote: 01 Jul 2019, 23:33
cpru68 wrote: 03 Jun 2019, 01:58 The whole situation was odd. I actually got a little upset when it was pretty clear to me with enough clues from the author that she was pregnant and she drank alcohol! That irritated me. While Cynthia kept “forgetting” she could be pregnant, I didn’t due to the constant references to it in the book. I didn’t like it at all.
If you want to be even more irritated, look for articles about recent research that has been done (just published this year!) that says drinking alcohol in small amounts is fine during pregnancy.
Some women on the trying to conceive boards I follow are taking it as permission to continue their habits well into pregnancy. (Not to mention the whole "drink til it's pink" community...)
As someone who has had to turn down drinks on the *slight* possibility that I might be pregnant, I find it really hard to believe that someone would willingly drink while fully knowing the affect it could have on the baby.
Wow! Not to get too far off topic of this book, but I have a young man living on my street in a house by himself watched by 3 people that rotate on 24 hour shifts due to the fact that he was born with fetal alcohol syndrome. He is prone to unexpected, violent outbursts that they have to monitor him 24/7 with no less than 3 people. I get that there are various levels to all of this, but this topic in this book irritated me to no end!
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maggi3 wrote: 01 Jun 2019, 00:53 How did you feel about Cynthia's pregnancy and miscarriage? Did you think the events and reactions of the characters were portrayed accurately? Did they add to the story or take away from it?
Honestly, the way Cynthia was in denial, to begin with, and swearing she couldn't be pregnant was not something I see an adult doing. It was more of a teenager move. I think it took away from the story. Even from the start of all the medications being introduced it was like information overload and rushed.
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Gracedscribe wrote: 27 Jun 2019, 23:33 I haven't been able to read the book, but a subplot of pregnancy and miscarriage in a book about cyber terrorism sounds like a pretty reckless endeavour. The author would have to twist and squeeze quite a bit to have it make sense, and it doesn't sound like he's done a very good job. Sounds like a botched up nose job, frankly!
One of my main concerns with the book is that the subplot just doesn't fit well with the main storyline. It seemed to be something they just tossed in for shock.
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I agree that it was an unnecessary plot line that I don’t feel was fully developed. I really liked the pinning it on the villain (Dan) theory and I’m happy they didn’t end up together.
I almost really hate that he visited her at the women’s center.
Cynthia is a strong character and this was a bad way to show a “weakness.”
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I'm sad for Cynthia, but it sounds like it could have been written better.
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As much as the part was meant to build up Cynthia's character, I found it a little distasteful. No woman forgets that she is pregnant and proceeds to consume alcohol. Leaving this bit out would not have made the story any less relatable.
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