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Sahansdal wrote: 04 May 2019, 00:15 Look at John 6:40, for example. "For it is the will of the Father, that every one WHO SEES the Son and believes, I will give eternal life and raise up at the last day." When did you "see" Jesus? This person said this because every one needs to be able to see their Master. Otherwise, you will be open to being deceived by inner forms who take on similar forms to your Master. This is from a Master, too, not just me. You need to "theoron" your Master -- that's Greek for "to SEE". And it means seeing physically, as John 6:36 just before it makes clear.
John 3:16 says God gave his only begotten son and whoever BELIEVES shall be granted eternal life. translation and scripture can admittedly be tricky, however this is only one such scripture but I also believe that in several scriptures throughout the Bible it says to live your life accordingly with your eyes always towards the Father.
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I am sorry, I was not trying to bring up a debate, I was simply stating that it does not help to be antagonistic towards people. I agree his views are his and as I have not finished the book, that indeed everyone has their own view.😀
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As a Christian, I know my facts very well from the scriptures. I believe this author is trying to deviate from the original teachings of Christ.
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Thinking about different interpretations to historical facts does not make a person a non-religious one. I think he is curious and also generous enough to share his knowledge and thoughts with the others
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Hard to say, but does that really matter. I doubt his book will change anyone's beliefs either way!
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Dragonsend wrote: 06 May 2019, 12:07
Sahansdal wrote: 04 May 2019, 00:15 Look at John 6:40, for example. "For it is the will of the Father, that every one WHO SEES the Son and believes, I will give eternal life and raise up at the last day." When did you "see" Jesus? This person said this because every one needs to be able to see their Master. Otherwise, you will be open to being deceived by inner forms who take on similar forms to your Master. This is from a Master, too, not just me. You need to "theoron" your Master -- that's Greek for "to SEE". And it means seeing physically, as John 6:36 just before it makes clear.
John 3:16 says God gave his only begotten son and whoever BELIEVES shall be granted eternal life. translation and scripture can admittedly be tricky, however this is only one such scripture but I also believe that in several scriptures throughout the Bible it says to live your life accordingly with your eyes always towards the Father.
John 3:16 says JESUS SAID "God gave ...." --- So, Jesus wasn't talking about himself when he said it. This chapter is about John the Baptist, not Jesus. Masters normally never talk about themselves. I know so from years of personal experience around two living Masters. John was A SAVIOR. A "BAPTIST" is one who saves. So this famous verse isn't even about Jesus. The SON is the Holy Spirit, not any person. This is also why the Trinity is false. It isn't in original Hebrew Matthew at 28:19. Look it up. No Trinity. It says only "Go." The Son is the Spirit, NOT Jesus.
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My take is, he appears bitter towards Christianity. I felt like I was just reading a rant, then a lot of entries from other literature.
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Sahansdal wrote: 08 May 2019, 12:48
Dragonsend wrote: 06 May 2019, 12:07
Sahansdal wrote: 04 May 2019, 00:15 Look at John 6:40, for example. "For it is the will of the Father, that every one WHO SEES the Son and believes, I will give eternal life and raise up at the last day." When did you "see" Jesus? This person said this because every one needs to be able to see their Master. Otherwise, you will be open to being deceived by inner forms who take on similar forms to your Master. This is from a Master, too, not just me. You need to "theoron" your Master -- that's Greek for "to SEE". And it means seeing physically, as John 6:36 just before it makes clear.
John 3:16 says God gave his only begotten son and whoever BELIEVES shall be granted eternal life. translation and scripture can admittedly be tricky, however this is only one such scripture but I also believe that in several scriptures throughout the Bible it says to live your life accordingly with your eyes always towards the Father.
John 3:16 says JESUS SAID "God gave ...." --- So, Jesus wasn't talking about himself when he said it. This chapter is about John the Baptist, not Jesus. Masters normally never talk about themselves. I know so from years of personal experience around two living Masters. John was A SAVIOR. A "BAPTIST" is one who saves. So this famous verse isn't even about Jesus. The SON is the Holy Spirit, not any person. This is also why the Trinity is false. It isn't in original Hebrew Matthew at 28:19. Look it up. No Trinity. It says only "Go." The Son is the Spirit, NOT Jesus.
Thank you, as I am only about three quarters through your book , I have not made any final conclusions. However, the way that these things are written, and I have read your analysis on juxtaposition, I cannot come to the same conclusion even about this passage. I don't want to be rude or callous towards your personal beliefs, however if it were something that I could just pick up and read then I would have to take the words themselves at face value and this leaves no room for interpretation. Thank you for your response.
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juliusotieno02 wrote: 02 May 2019, 02:55 Having read that book, what do you think of the author? Is he religious? Is he a christian? What do you think the reaction of the church would have been if he is/was a christian?
I think betrayal would have been the reaction, and I think the author is way open to new ways of thinking.
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I agree, the church would not accept his revelation. I feel as though the author is not overly religious otherwise he would not dig so deep to find all of these secrets.
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I feel there was a lot of bitterness he felt while writing this book. It is a huge deviation he has taken from the actual writings about Christ. But I guess everyone is entitled to voice their opinions.
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The author is a free thinker who has embraced an East based religious belief. So he is religious only his belief system is not compatible with Christianity.
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I feel he might be interested in exploring different alternatives to a belief system which very rarely, If ever, has changed in the past without breaking into new branch church. Perhaps still debate which I don't feel will change many people's mind yet which could prove useful nonetheless.
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Renu G wrote: 02 May 2019, 05:34 The author had responded to my comment on LinkedIn by stating that the findings spell the end of Christianity. What nonsense!
I got the same comment!
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Dragonsend wrote: 06 May 2019, 12:07
Sahansdal wrote: 04 May 2019, 00:15 Look at John 6:40, for example. "For it is the will of the Father, that every one WHO SEES the Son and believes, I will give eternal life and raise up at the last day." When did you "see" Jesus? This person said this because every one needs to be able to see their Master. Otherwise, you will be open to being deceived by inner forms who take on similar forms to your Master. This is from a Master, too, not just me. You need to "theoron" your Master -- that's Greek for "to SEE". And it means seeing physically, as John 6:36 just before it makes clear.
John 3:16 says God gave his only begotten son and whoever BELIEVES shall be granted eternal life. translation and scripture can admittedly be tricky, however this is only one such scripture but I also believe that in several scriptures throughout the Bible it says to live your life accordingly with your eyes always towards the Father.
And it is also in PAST tense, not future: "God gave...." The sacrifice of Christ supposedly happened at death not birth. This is about John the Baptist, as is all of John 3, not Jesus. All Masters have taught that one needs a living Master to be saved. Go to rssb [dot] org and look into the books by real Masters at Science of the Soul [dot] org.
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Renu G wrote: 02 May 2019, 05:34 The author had responded to my comment on LinkedIn by stating that the findings spell the end of Christianity. What nonsense!
I believe that the intention to obliterate God's word will never work. History has it. Take an example of the Roman Emperor, Diolectian, who in 303 C.E ordered the burning of the Scriptures. Did he succeed in destroying Christianity? I believe God has a way of protecting His word.
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