Princess Catrin's new mystical ability

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Princess Catrin's new mystical ability

Post by Sirajuddin » 23 Sep 2018, 08:35

When king Amren denies Catrin's request to be trained in spiritual order and when she asks why, he says, "The magic is too unpredictable and often alters in deadly ways. Foresight is not a gift but a curse in our family."
Why Catrin secretly practiced her new mystical ability?

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Post by gfowle » 23 Sep 2018, 12:00

I think that Catrin is a teenager, just like any in our present world. She does not believe that her father really understands her abilities, and she wants to understand the power that she has within herself.

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Post by CommMayo » 23 Sep 2018, 16:56

I got the sense that her ability called to her. At certain points, it seemed almost as if she had no control over her ability at all. It was dangerous of her father not to set her up to hone her skills...of course, his reasoning for denying her is made clear later in the novel.

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Post by sarahmarlowe » 25 Sep 2018, 19:31

For Catrin to request the training, she must have already had some experience with her abilities. Certainly the gift would be alluring and addictive! It would be difficult to stop experimenting with such a gift. I would think that most everyone has, at one time or another, thought of having mystical powers. If we really had some, it would be hard to refrain from using them!
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Post by Angelique Bahormal » 26 Sep 2018, 10:24

Catrin desired to be a Druidess. King Amren her father prohibited her and all the royal family to use the powers of the Ancient Druid. Despite her father’s prohibition, she disobeying him and secretly practiced her new mystical ability. When the kingdom has a political conflict with their enemy, King seems to beleive that Catrin is the only person who can save the kingdom with her mystical power.

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Post by kdstrack » 26 Sep 2018, 13:15

Given her age, I think it would be appealing to experience this kind of power and ability. She probably didn't want her father to know that she was "disobeying" his wishes. This caused a conflict for her. She had to justify developing these abilities with opposing her father's wishes. - We can also see that she was not mature enough to foresee what could be some possible consequences of unleashing these powers.

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Post by Shalomsamuels1 » 27 Sep 2018, 10:35

gfowle wrote:
23 Sep 2018, 12:00
I think that Catrin is a teenager, just like any in our present world. She does not believe that her father really understands her abilities, and she wants to understand the power that she has within herself.
I tend to agree with this line of thinking with the added idea of her feeling this power at times.

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Post by K Geisinger » 27 Sep 2018, 12:12

Shalomsamuels1 wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 10:35
gfowle wrote:
23 Sep 2018, 12:00
I think that Catrin is a teenager, just like any in our present world. She does not believe that her father really understands her abilities, and she wants to understand the power that she has within herself.
I tend to agree with this line of thinking with the added idea of her feeling this power at times.
I think Catrin feeling her father does not understand her ability is only half of the answer. Teenagers feel invincible and fearless. Just because other family members may have made mistakes or had bad outcomes doesn't mean she won't be better at it.
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Post by CommMayo » 30 Sep 2018, 11:04

kdstrack wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 13:15
Given her age, I think it would be appealing to experience this kind of power and ability. She probably didn't want her father to know that she was "disobeying" his wishes. This caused a conflict for her. She had to justify developing these abilities with opposing her father's wishes. - We can also see that she was not mature enough to foresee what could be some possible consequences of unleashing these powers.
I think you are spot on about her level of maturity regarding her ability to process what she is seeing through her raven or the wider implications that power/knowledge has for her or her kingdom.

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Post by bb587 » 30 Sep 2018, 11:11

If you're born with a beautiful voice, can you stop yourself from singing? If you're born with artistic skill, can you stop yourself from sketching? I think Catrin's gift is part of who she is. She can't deny that part of herself.

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Post by CommMayo » 30 Sep 2018, 11:14

bb587 wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 11:11
If you're born with a beautiful voice, can you stop yourself from singing? If you're born with artistic skill, can you stop yourself from sketching? I think Catrin's gift is part of who she is. She can't deny that part of herself.
That is true, but according to King Amren, Catrin's gift is more akin to shoplifting or sword swallowing. He saw great danger in her abilities, especially with the curse hanging over their heads.

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Post by bb587 » 30 Sep 2018, 11:19

CommMayo wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 11:14
bb587 wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 11:11
If you're born with a beautiful voice, can you stop yourself from singing? If you're born with artistic skill, can you stop yourself from sketching? I think Catrin's gift is part of who she is. She can't deny that part of herself.
That is true, but according to King Amren, Catrin's gift is more akin to shoplifting or sword swallowing. He saw great danger in her abilities, especially with the curse hanging over their heads.
I don't know if sword swallowing is something that anyone's born with a need to do. But shoplifting can certainly be a compulsion. Let's add pyromancy to the mix. Shoplifters and pyromaniacs will often give into those temptations within themselves before learning to control themselves.

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Post by kdstrack » 30 Sep 2018, 15:28

CommMayo wrote:
30 Sep 2018, 11:04
kdstrack wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 13:15
Given her age, I think it would be appealing to experience this kind of power and ability. She probably didn't want her father to know that she was "disobeying" his wishes. This caused a conflict for her. She had to justify developing these abilities with opposing her father's wishes. - We can also see that she was not mature enough to foresee what could be some possible consequences of unleashing these powers.
I think you are spot on about her level of maturity regarding her ability to process what she is seeing through her raven or the wider implications that power/knowledge has for her or her kingdom.
This was an expert presentation by the author. It leaves plenty of room for Catrin's development in the rest of the series.

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Post by Kendra M Parker » 30 Sep 2018, 15:30

I was a little bit confused by the fact that her father prohibited her from using her skills early in the book, but when she comes back with a vision, he suddenly decides to have Agrona teach her.

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Post by Wa_hu » 01 Oct 2018, 02:56

I think her father could have dealt with the situation better. It's not enough to trust a teenager not to do something just because you said so.

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