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katiesquilts wrote: 09 Jun 2018, 03:21 Once I even read a sci-fi book where it took me two whole pages to realize the characters were having sex because I thought the guy was literally just "polishing his sword"...as you do.
😂😂😂 That’s horrible! I think the best written sex is the hinted one, unless of course you’re writing an erotic novel lol, you can never know who’s reading your book and the impact of explicit sex on the reader, even more so when you’re expecting an entirely different book.
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When I read Romances I don't mind reading about sex scenes if those are well written and express deep love between two characters. I'm not so much into the details of the sex itself, but it can still be pleasant. Unfortunately, due to the words chosen from the author or the lack of love that I felt, I found this book too graphic and sometimes vulgar.
I was too disappointed in reading the word "cock" a couple of times.
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Such a language is mostly common in romance novel. But It is not a pure romance novel. So some people often feel disturbed by such scenes . Overall everyone has a different taste. Mostly people like the addition of such spice scenes and the author knowns this well.
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ViziVoir wrote: 17 Jun 2018, 20:14
katiesquilts wrote: 09 Jun 2018, 03:21 The one thing I can't stand though is when the author tries to substitute everyday words for the body parts...things like sausages and love sticks.
I recently read a book that referred to a female character's genitalia as "extremely wet walls of delight." I had to set it down and laugh for a few minutes before I could keep reading. So, relatively speaking, I can't help but think the word "cock" is somewhat tame.
I can't say I've read that description before. Some writers have a way of either phrasing sex scenes in such a way that they can avoid these descriptions all together or they just have a completely different style. Some people probably like the DownNDirty descriptions whereas I prefer more love and emotional intimacy rather than descriptions of how hard and wet things are.
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Sarah Tariq wrote: 21 Jun 2018, 01:22 Such a language is mostly common in romance novel. But It is not a pure romance novel. So some people often feel disturbed by such scenes . Overall everyone has a different taste. Mostly people like the addition of such spice scenes and the author knowns this well.
Some people enjoy the nitty gritty details. I guess authors need to be careful which word choice they assign to their books: romance, love-story, erotica, etc... to set the right expectations. Romance to me means the characters having sex love each other and that is obvious in the descriptions of their love making. Sex and making love aren't the same thing.
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katiesquilts wrote: 09 Jun 2018, 03:21 ...
The one thing I can't stand though is when the author tries to substitute everyday words for the body parts...things like sausages and love sticks.
Once I even read a sci-fi book where it took me two whole pages to realize the characters were having sex because I thought the guy was literally just "polishing his sword"...as you do.
The odd innuendo used for body parts can backfire so much. Sometimes it sounds much too immature, others it sounds too weird, so either could mentally take you out of the scene.

I think an author even had a song in one book that can be seen as an entire innuendo, sort of poking fun at the trope.
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Not being a fan of the steamy romance, I pretty much skipped these sections. I know that there are a lot of people who like this, but I was reading more for the historical fiction aspect - and was disappointed to find out it was basically a romance novel :D
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greenstripedgiraffe wrote: 27 Jun 2018, 12:31 Not being a fan of the steamy romance, I pretty much skipped these sections. I know that there are a lot of people who like this, but I was reading more for the historical fiction aspect - and was disappointed to find out it was basically a romance novel :D
I still think the historical elements were wonderful, even though the present-day romance took things off track and into erotic territory. Once I discovered the Giuliano-Fioretta relationship and their son growing up to be Pope was fact, the story took on new meaning to me.
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strawberrysab wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 13:11
katiesquilts wrote: 09 Jun 2018, 03:21 Once I even read a sci-fi book where it took me two whole pages to realize the characters were having sex because I thought the guy was literally just "polishing his sword"...as you do.
😂😂😂 That’s horrible! I think the best written sex is the hinted one, unless of course you’re writing an erotic novel ...
On the whole, I agree with this - very few writers can write well about sex and, actually, I think it can diminish the romantic energy if characters get together before the end. Alternatively, if you want to establish that characters are already together, then there are other ways of doing it.
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Libs_Books wrote: 30 Jun 2018, 07:50
strawberrysab wrote: 20 Jun 2018, 13:11
katiesquilts wrote: 09 Jun 2018, 03:21 Once I even read a sci-fi book where it took me two whole pages to realize the characters were having sex because I thought the guy was literally just "polishing his sword"...as you do.
😂😂😂 That’s horrible! I think the best written sex is the hinted one, unless of course you’re writing an erotic novel ...
On the whole, I agree with this - very few writers can write well about sex and, actually, I think it can diminish the romantic energy if characters get together before the end. Alternatively, if you want to establish that characters are already together, then there are other ways of doing it.
Ive seen a lot of authors sort of gloss over the issue. They went into the bedroom, locked the door, and didn't come out for dinner for several hours. I'm pretty sure we get the implication! Throwing "I love yous" into a sex scene doesn't necessarily convey love either. They way the couple treats each other in that scene and throughout the whole book indicates if they actually love each other. I want to see that love in there. If I just wanted sex I'd read the oh-so-awful 50 Shades of Grey.
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I liked the way Alex and Angela held off for a while before becoming physical. I believe that a book does not have to describe in detail everything that goes on in the bedroom, for it to be romantic. Why can't some things be left to our imagination? Does anyone remember when movies and TV would have a sex scene, they would simply close the door? I thought that the Italian vineyard, the setting, the relationship were all so very romantic. Some of the words used to describe body parts brought my idea of love down some notches.
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It is an important thing to keep up with your writing style and to use the right style in the right place, book, character... So foul language is sometimes appropriate, but here it just kills the feeling of a scene.
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Sex scenes in novels often make me roll my eyes. While words themselves are never a problem for me, I really don't mind whether the author write cock, penis, or whatever, I just tend to not enjoy reading sex scenes in general.
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Don't mind the sex scenes but they don't have to be that long either. Quit writing about it and move on to the rest of the story.
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I guess it is everyone to their own. Some people like sex scenes complete with the raw language. Others like romance scenes with romantic language. Personally I don't like either. I don't like the romance genre but the majority of this book did not consist exclusively of romance or sex, so I just read through those parts to get to the other, better parts.
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